java.lang.NullPointerException: Name is null

[muzzol]

Hi,

I just had an error while importing a backup from a Zimbra Enterprise export:

[ExternalRestore] Unknown Exception
        at com.zextras.op.backup.ZEExternalRestoreOperation.doOperation ( ZEExternalRestoreOperation.java:676 )
        at com.zextras.op.ZEOperation.exec ( ZEOperation.java:593 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.execOperation ( ZEBackupThread.java:197 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.run ( ZEBackupThread.java:107 )
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Name is null
        at java.lang.Enum.valueOf ( Enum.java:195 )
        at com.zimbra.cs.account.DataSource$Type.valueOf ( DataSource.java:54 )
        at com.zimbra.cs.account.DataSource$Type.fromString ( DataSource.java:59 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBAccount.restoreDataSources ( ZEBAccount.java:1132 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBAccount.restoreAccountInfoPostItems ( ZEBAccount.java:927 )
        at com.zextras.op.backup.ZEExternalRestoreOperation.doOperation ( ZEExternalRestoreOperation.java:631 )
        at com.zextras.op.ZEOperation.exec ( ZEOperation.java:593 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.execOperation ( ZEBackupThread.java:197 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.run ( ZEBackupThread.java:107 )

any ideas?

[Cine]

Hello muzzol!

Can you please tell us:

- Source server's OS, Architecture, Zimbra version and ZeXtras Suite version
- Destination server's OS, Architecture, Zimbra version and ZeXtras Suite version

Have a nice day,
Cine
the ZeXtras Team

[muzzol]

- Source server's OS, Architecture, Zimbra version and ZeXtras Suite version
- Destination server's OS, Architecture, Zimbra version and ZeXtras Suite version

sorry for the late, I wasn't on client site.

Source:

$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version:	:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch:graphics-4.0-ia32:graphics-4.0-noarch:printing-4.0-ia32:printing-4.0-noarch
Distributor ID:	RedHatEnterpriseServer
Description:	Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.7 (Tikanga)
Release:	5.7
Codename:	Tikanga

$ uname -a
Linux pampol2 2.6.18-274.18.1.el5PAE #1 SMP Fri Jan 20 15:27:13 EST 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

$ zmcontrol -v     

Release 6.0.12_GA_2883.RHEL5_20110305232032 RHEL5 NETWORK edition.

$ zxsuite core getVersion


        zextras_version                                     1.6.3
        zextras_target                                      6.0.12
        zextras_commit                                      ae2567d508bb626ade16ea9903caa2efebf679de
        zextras_lib_version                                 1.0.0
        zextras_lib_commit                                  f0782da1830e79aac0f819c31dd19392dd14fc9c

Destination:

$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
Release:	10.04
Codename:	lucid

$ uname -a
Linux rorqual1 2.6.32-44-server #98-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 24 17:41:33 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ zmcontrol -v 
Release 7.2.1_GA_2790.UBUNTU10_64 UBUNTU10_64 FOSS edition.

$ zxsuite core getVersion


        zextras_version                                     1.6.3
        zextras_target                                      7.2.1
        zextras_commit                                      ae2567d508bb626ade16ea9903caa2efebf679de
        zextras_lib_version                                 1.0.0
        zextras_lib_commit                                  f0782da1830e79aac0f819c31dd19392dd14fc9c

pls, ask me if you need further info.

[muzzol]

@Cine, this is quite urgent and client have a valid license.

do you want me to provide client details?

[simon]

Hi muzzol,
thanks for your feedback, but I think I need a little bit of extra information in order to be able to address this error.

In /opt/zimbra/log/ you should see a file named something like zextras_ZxBackup_ExternalRestore_[operation-id].log
In this log there should be, above the error you posted in your first message, this line:

lastAccountId = [account-id]

Where instead of [account-id] you have the id of the account that caused the error.
Go to that account's directory under the export path. For example:

/export/path/accounts/[account-id]/

In this directory, there should be a file named "account_info". Could you please post the contents of that file?

Regards,
simon

[muzzol]

extrangely enough, error I can find in log is not the same I see in ZeXtras -> Notifications.

this is the one in Notifications:

03-Dec-2012 13:47 - Error: ZeXtras ZxBackup Notification, External Restore failed.

This is an automated notification from ZxBackup about External Restore.

Operation External Restore failed.

Operation Id: f7f9feb4-48d0-453a-95bc-9adfbde24df1
Operation Host: XXXXXXX

- exception -
[ExternalRestore] Unknown Exception
        at com.zextras.op.backup.ZEExternalRestoreOperation.doOperation ( ZEExternalRestoreOperation.java:676 )
        at com.zextras.op.ZEOperation.exec ( ZEOperation.java:593 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.execOperation ( ZEBackupThread.java:197 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.run ( ZEBackupThread.java:107 )
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Name is null
        at java.lang.Enum.valueOf ( Enum.java:195 )
        at com.zimbra.cs.account.DataSource$Type.valueOf ( DataSource.java:54 )
        at com.zimbra.cs.account.DataSource$Type.fromString ( DataSource.java:59 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBAccount.restoreDataSources ( ZEBAccount.java:1132 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBAccount.restoreAccountInfoPostItems ( ZEBAccount.java:927 )
        at com.zextras.op.backup.ZEExternalRestoreOperation.doOperation ( ZEExternalRestoreOperation.java:631 )
        at com.zextras.op.ZEOperation.exec ( ZEOperation.java:593 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.execOperation ( ZEBackupThread.java:197 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.run ( ZEBackupThread.java:107 )

and this is the one that i can see in the logs:

2012-12-03 13:17:26,520 [f7f9feb4-48d0-453a-95bc-9adfbde24df1] ExternalRestore WARN Unable to restore item 10, account alumne4@XXXXX.net(f44d4ea6-3014-48c0-9783-5b02143e5759):
Unknown Exception in restore
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBItem.restore ( ZEBItem.java:653 )
        at com.zextras.op.backup.ZEExternalRestoreOperation.restoreItemsFromExternal ( ZEExternalRestoreOperation.java:744 )
        at com.zextras.op.backup.ZEExternalRestoreOperation.doOperation ( ZEExternalRestoreOperation.java:599 )
        at com.zextras.op.ZEOperation.exec ( ZEOperation.java:593 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.execOperation ( ZEBackupThread.java:197 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.run ( ZEBackupThread.java:107 )
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupExtMap.has ( ZEBackupExtMap.java:68 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBItem.restore ( ZEBItem.java:470 )
        at com.zextras.op.backup.ZEExternalRestoreOperation.restoreItemsFromExternal ( ZEExternalRestoreOperation.java:744 )
        at com.zextras.op.backup.ZEExternalRestoreOperation.doOperation ( ZEExternalRestoreOperation.java:599 )
        at com.zextras.op.ZEOperation.exec ( ZEOperation.java:593 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.execOperation ( ZEBackupThread.java:197 )
        at com.zextras.backup.ZEBackupThread.run ( ZEBackupThread.java:107 )

and I can't find any lastAccountId string in the log.

# grep -i lastAccountId zextras_ZxBackup_ExternalRestore_f7f9feb4-48d0-453a-95bc-9adfbde24df1.log
#

but I gues this ID is what you want: alumne4@XXXXX.net(f44d4ea6-3014-48c0-9783-5b02143e5759):

so this is the file

# cat account_info
[{"start_date":1354529287836,"mid":"858","attrs":{"uid":"alumne4","zimbraPrefMailFlashTitle":"TRUE","zimbraPrefTagTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraMailStatus":"enabled","zimbraPrefSkin":"lavender","zimbraPrefCalendarFirstDayOfWeek":"1","zimbraAccountStatus":"active","zimbraMailHost":"pampol2.XXX.com","userPassword":"{SSHA}twPMl7dGjcY4AcXHb8uJKbfaeB75HMr4","zimbraId":"f44d4ea6-3014-48c0-9783-5b02143e5759","zimbraPrefLocale":"ca","givenName":"alumne","zimbraPrefHtmlEditorDefaultFontSize":"14pt","zimbraPrefHtmlEditorDefaultFontColor":"#000000","zimbraPrefReadingPaneEnabled":"TRUE","zimbraPrefGroupMailBy":"message","zimbraPrefMailPollingInterval":"120","zimbraPrefDisplayExternalImages":"TRUE","zimbraPrefSearchTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraPrefZimletTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraPrefDefaultSignatureId":"45c22f99-8159-4266-b30e-50b456f4056f","zimbraPrefListViewColumns":"CLV:se|ex|fg|pr|tg*|st|fr|at|su|fo|sz|dt,CV:se|fg|pr|tg*|st|fr|at|su|fo|sz|dt","zimbraMailDeliveryAddress":"alumne4@XXX.com","mail":"alumne4@XXX.com","zimbraCOSId":"5ee03028-23d0-4869-b060-6d17d39fa989","sn":"4","zimbraPrefMailSignatureStyle":"internet","zimbraPasswordModifiedTime":"20080717112806Z","objectClass":["organizationalPerson","zimbraAccount","amavisAccount"],"zimbraPrefCalendarApptReminderWarningTime":"0","zimbraPrefFolderTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraPrefHtmlEditorDefaultFontFamily":"Arial","zimbraPrefMandatorySpellCheckEnabled":"FALSE","zimbraMailSieveScript":"require [\"fileinto\", \"reject\", \"tag\", \"flag\"];\n\n# important\nif anyof (header :contains \"from\" \"alumne16@XXX.com\") {\n    tag \"important\";\n}\n\n# spam\nif anyof (header :contains \"subject\" \"casino\",\n  header :contains \"subject\" \"viagra\",\n  header :contains \"subject\" \"hola amigo\") {\n    fileinto \"Junk\";\n    stop;\n}\n","zimbraMailTransport":"lmtp:pampol2.XXX.com:7025","zimbraPrefMailSendReadReceipts":"prompt","cn":"alumne 4","zimbraPrefCalendarAutoAddInvites":"FALSE","zimbraHideInGal":"TRUE","displayName":"alumne 4"},"identities":[{"zimbraPrefIdentityId":"f44d4ea6-3014-48c0-9783-5b02143e5759","zimbraPrefForwardReplyPrefixChar":">","zimbraPrefSaveToSent":"TRUE","zimbraPrefSentMailFolder":"sent","zimbraPrefFromDisplay":"alumne 4","zimbraPrefForwardIncludeOriginalText":"includeBody","zimbraPrefForwardReplyFormat":"html","zimbraPrefMailSignatureStyle":"internet","zimbraPrefIdentityName":"DEFAULT","zimbraPrefReplyIncludeOriginalText":"includeBody","zimbraPrefFromAddress":"alumne4@XXX.com","zimbraPrefDefaultSignatureId":"45c22f99-8159-4266-b30e-50b456f4056f"}],"signatures":[],"datasources":[],"groups":[]}]

[simon]

Hi muzzol,
the two errors are in fact unrelated, they happened 30 minutes apart as you can see from the times: 13:47 and 13:17.
The second one (at 13:17) is expected in a migration from zimbra 6.* to 7.* and is nothing to worry about, it's related to system folders.

The account you posted isn't the one we were looking for then!
Are you able to find the first error in the logs and post the relative last account?

Regards,
simon

[muzzol]

I've just launched a new import to see if I can reproduce the problem.

[muzzol]

Happened again, i can't find error in log.

Last operation was

2012-12-05 13:38:31,769 [a5d43b87-f457-43f3-a711-c78b61499480] ExternalRestore INFO Restoring shared datasources of account jcalvo@XXX.com

so I've searched for this user and I've founs its file:

[{"start_date":1354531745076,"mid":"506","attrs":{"uid":"jcalvo","zimbraPrefTagTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraMailStatus":"disabled","zimbraPrefSkin":"waves","zimbraPrefCalendarFirstDayOfWeek":"1","zimbraAccountStatus":"closed","userPassword":"{SSHA}ufGlQP7cIx2oY3isNRN/6JSuaBu8jtJZ","zimbraMailHost":"pampol2.XXX.com","zimbraPrefOutOfOfficeReply":"El destinatari de correu no està disponible, Disculpau les molesties ","zimbraId":"dec69d03-4bc0-4786-8d6e-a69f88f3133f","zimbraPrefLocale":"en_GB","givenName":"Jonás","zimbraPrefReadingPaneEnabled":"TRUE","zimbraPrefOutOfOfficeReplyEnabled":"FALSE","zimbraPrefSearchTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraPrefZimletTreeOpen":"FALSE","zimbraSignatureName":"Jonas","zimbraPrefDefaultSignatureId":"6c6bba80-8007-47fa-8a33-361502cf062c","zimbraPrefTimeZoneId":"Europe/Brussels","zimbraPrefReadingPaneLocation":"bottom","zimbraMailDeliveryAddress":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraSignatureId":"6c6bba80-8007-47fa-8a33-361502cf062c","mail":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraCOSId":"e00428a1-0c00-11d9-836a-000d93afea2a","sn":"Calvo","zimbraPrefMailSignatureStyle":"internet","objectClass":["organizationalPerson","zimbraAccount","amavisAccount"],"zimbraPasswordModifiedTime":"20071221083202Z","zimbraPrefFolderTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraMailSieveScript":"require [\"fileinto\", \"reject\", \"tag\", \"flag\"];\n\n# webs\nif anyof (header :contains \"from\" \"mnicolau@XXX.com\",\n  header :contains \"from\" \"sarrom@XXX.com\",\n  header :contains \"from\" \"dmaimo@XXX.com\") {\n    fileinto \"web\";\n}\n\n# webmaster\nif anyof (header :contains \"to\" \"webmaster@XXX.com\") {\n    fileinto \"Webmaster\";\n    stop;\n}\n","zimbraMailTransport":"lmtp:pampol2.XXX.com:7025","cn":"Jonás Calvo","zimbraQuotaLastWarnTime":"20120806144035Z","zimbraPrefMailSignature":"Jonàs Calvo Hernàndez\nDepartament Web.\nConsorci d'Informàtica Local.\n","displayName":"Jonás Calvo"},"identities":[{"zimbraPrefIdentityId":"dec69d03-4bc0-4786-8d6e-a69f88f3133f","zimbraPrefSaveToSent":"TRUE","zimbraPrefForwardReplyPrefixChar":">","zimbraPrefSentMailFolder":"sent","zimbraPrefFromDisplay":"Jonás Calvo","zimbraPrefForwardIncludeOriginalText":"includeBody","zimbraPrefForwardReplyFormat":"html","zimbraPrefMailSignatureStyle":"internet","zimbraPrefIdentityName":"DEFAULT","zimbraPrefReplyIncludeOriginalText":"includeBody","zimbraPrefMailSignature":"Jonàs Calvo Hernàndez\nDepartament Web.\nConsorci d'Informàtica Local.\n","zimbraPrefFromAddress":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraPrefDefaultSignatureId":"6c6bba80-8007-47fa-8a33-361502cf062c"}],"signatures":[{"zimbraSignatureId":"6c6bba80-8007-47fa-8a33-361502cf062c","zimbraPrefMailSignature":"Jonàs Calvo Hernàndez\nDepartament Web.\nConsorci d'Informàtica Local.\n","zimbraSignatureName":"Jonas"}],"datasources":[{"zimbraPrefFromDisplay":"Jonás Calvo","zimbraDataSourceLeaveOnServer":"TRUE","objectClass":["zimbraDataSource","zimbraPop3DataSource"],"zimbraDataSourceConnectionType":"cleartext","zimbraDataSourcePollingInterval":"0","zimbraDataSourceEmailAddress":"jcalvo@ZZZZ.com","zimbraDataSourcePassword":"AZCKNgqFEFCQvu1ZEDrobR3577QJs6JIbSjLg185OjB0","zimbraDataSourcePort":"110","zimbraDataSourceEnabled":"TRUE","zimbraDataSourceId":"667133ad-89b3-4c54-8f80-56c9bce32a9f","zimbraDataSourceHost":"pop3.ZZZZ.com","zimbraPrefFromAddress":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraDataSourceUsername":"jcalvo","zimbraDataSourceName":"consell","zimbraDataSourceFolderId":"1460"},{"zimbraPrefFromDisplay":"Jonás Calvo","zimbraDataSourceLeaveOnServer":"TRUE","objectClass":["zimbraDataSource","zimbraPop3DataSource"],"zimbraDataSourceConnectionType":"cleartext","zimbraDataSourcePollingInterval":"0","zimbraDataSourceEmailAddress":"jcalvo@ZZZZ.com","zimbraDataSourcePassword":"ARvMrXTNpxzx0Z/4cwn065+M5cDWJVkzzqHMSXJBZgE1","zimbraDataSourcePort":"110","zimbraDataSourceEnabled":"TRUE","zimbraDataSourceId":"6dd2f612-6729-4eb5-af3e-b99139ff947c","zimbraDataSourceHost":"pop3.ZZZZ.com","zimbraPrefFromAddress":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraDataSourceUsername":"jcalvo","zimbraDataSourceName":"Conselldemallorca","zimbraDataSourceFolderId":"1460"}],"groups":[]}]

is this usefull?

[simon]

Hi muzzol, yes that is very helpful.

The error occurs because there is no value for "zimbraDataSourceType". Were this particular account's datasources created on a Zimbra 6 or were they imported from a previous Zimbra version?

Either way, as a workaround try replacing the contents of that account_info file with the following:

[{"start_date":1354531745076,"mid":"506","attrs":{"uid":"jcalvo","zimbraPrefTagTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraMailStatus":"disabled","zimbraPrefSkin":"waves","zimbraPrefCalendarFirstDayOfWeek":"1","zimbraAccountStatus":"closed","userPassword":"{SSHA}ufGlQP7cIx2oY3isNRN/6JSuaBu8jtJZ","zimbraMailHost":"pampol2.XXX.com","zimbraPrefOutOfOfficeReply":"El destinatari de correu no està disponible, Disculpau les molesties ","zimbraId":"dec69d03-4bc0-4786-8d6e-a69f88f3133f","zimbraPrefLocale":"en_GB","givenName":"Jonás","zimbraPrefReadingPaneEnabled":"TRUE","zimbraPrefOutOfOfficeReplyEnabled":"FALSE","zimbraPrefSearchTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraPrefZimletTreeOpen":"FALSE","zimbraSignatureName":"Jonas","zimbraPrefDefaultSignatureId":"6c6bba80-8007-47fa-8a33-361502cf062c","zimbraPrefTimeZoneId":"Europe/Brussels","zimbraPrefReadingPaneLocation":"bottom","zimbraMailDeliveryAddress":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraSignatureId":"6c6bba80-8007-47fa-8a33-361502cf062c","mail":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraCOSId":"e00428a1-0c00-11d9-836a-000d93afea2a","sn":"Calvo","zimbraPrefMailSignatureStyle":"internet","objectClass":["organizationalPerson","zimbraAccount","amavisAccount"],"zimbraPasswordModifiedTime":"20071221083202Z","zimbraPrefFolderTreeOpen":"TRUE","zimbraMailSieveScript":"require [\"fileinto\", \"reject\", \"tag\", \"flag\"];\n\n# webs\nif anyof (header :contains \"from\" \"mnicolau@XXX.com\",\n  header :contains \"from\" \"sarrom@XXX.com\",\n  header :contains \"from\" \"dmaimo@XXX.com\") {\n    fileinto \"web\";\n}\n\n# webmaster\nif anyof (header :contains \"to\" \"webmaster@XXX.com\") {\n    fileinto \"Webmaster\";\n    stop;\n}\n","zimbraMailTransport":"lmtp:pampol2.XXX.com:7025","cn":"Jonás Calvo","zimbraQuotaLastWarnTime":"20120806144035Z","zimbraPrefMailSignature":"Jonàs Calvo Hernàndez\nDepartament Web.\nConsorci d'Informàtica Local.\n","displayName":"Jonás Calvo"},"identities":[{"zimbraPrefIdentityId":"dec69d03-4bc0-4786-8d6e-a69f88f3133f","zimbraPrefSaveToSent":"TRUE","zimbraPrefForwardReplyPrefixChar":">","zimbraPrefSentMailFolder":"sent","zimbraPrefFromDisplay":"Jonás Calvo","zimbraPrefForwardIncludeOriginalText":"includeBody","zimbraPrefForwardReplyFormat":"html","zimbraPrefMailSignatureStyle":"internet","zimbraPrefIdentityName":"DEFAULT","zimbraPrefReplyIncludeOriginalText":"includeBody","zimbraPrefMailSignature":"Jonàs Calvo Hernàndez\nDepartament Web.\nConsorci d'Informàtica Local.\n","zimbraPrefFromAddress":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraPrefDefaultSignatureId":"6c6bba80-8007-47fa-8a33-361502cf062c"}],"signatures":[{"zimbraSignatureId":"6c6bba80-8007-47fa-8a33-361502cf062c","zimbraPrefMailSignature":"Jonàs Calvo Hernàndez\nDepartament Web.\nConsorci d'Informàtica Local.\n","zimbraSignatureName":"Jonas"}],"datasources":[{"zimbraPrefFromDisplay":"Jonás Calvo","zimbraDataSourceLeaveOnServer":"TRUE","objectClass":["zimbraDataSource","zimbraPop3DataSource"],"zimbraDataSourceConnectionType":"cleartext","zimbraDataSourcePollingInterval":"0","zimbraDataSourceEmailAddress":"jcalvo@ZZZZ.com","zimbraDataSourcePassword":"AZCKNgqFEFCQvu1ZEDrobR3577QJs6JIbSjLg185OjB0","zimbraDataSourcePort":"110","zimbraDataSourceEnabled":"TRUE","zimbraDataSourceType":"pop3","zimbraDataSourceId":"667133ad-89b3-4c54-8f80-56c9bce32a9f","zimbraDataSourceHost":"pop3.ZZZZ.com","zimbraPrefFromAddress":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraDataSourceUsername":"jcalvo","zimbraDataSourceName":"consell","zimbraDataSourceFolderId":"1460"},{"zimbraPrefFromDisplay":"Jonás Calvo","zimbraDataSourceLeaveOnServer":"TRUE","objectClass":["zimbraDataSource","zimbraPop3DataSource"],"zimbraDataSourceConnectionType":"cleartext","zimbraDataSourcePollingInterval":"0","zimbraDataSourceEmailAddress":"jcalvo@ZZZZ.com","zimbraDataSourcePassword":"ARvMrXTNpxzx0Z/4cwn065+M5cDWJVkzzqHMSXJBZgE1","zimbraDataSourcePort":"110","zimbraDataSourceEnabled":"TRUE","zimbraDataSourceType":"pop3","zimbraDataSourceId":"6dd2f612-6729-4eb5-af3e-b99139ff947c","zimbraDataSourceHost":"pop3.ZZZZ.com","zimbraPrefFromAddress":"jcalvo@XXX.com","zimbraDataSourceUsername":"jcalvo","zimbraDataSourceName":"Conselldemallorca","zimbraDataSourceFolderId":"1460"}],"groups":[]}]

I have added the string

"zimbraDataSourceType":"pop3"

to the two datasources of this account.

This will be fixed in the next ZeXtras version, but for now you can try this "hack".
Please let us know if this works!

Regards,
simon